BYOC LAN IRC Discussions

22:59 <@andrew> evand: he is currently planning on having the lan party at the field house from noon to midnight
23:00 < evand> ok
23:00 < evand> that sounds good
23:08 <@andrew> evand: speaking of that, i've been listing ideas, thoughts, questions, concerns, etc on the wiki, http://wiki.acm.pct.edu/lan_parties/byoc
23:12 < Sedorox> hmmm
23:15 < evand> awesome
23:16 <@andrew> please add to it
23:17 <@andrew> no detail is too small (because if we don't think about it, it will become huge)
23:18 < Sedorox> andrew: we might be able to work away that we have access to the network.. just for one machine (sign-in)... however.. if we're opening this up to lyco.. its pointless as they wouldn't have a login here
23:18 < Sedorox> work a way*
23:19 <@andrew> Sedorox: i was thinking that, but with lyco, i'd rather just have something simple where we collect name, email, and physically validate against a student id or something
23:19 <@andrew> which assumes that lyco has student ids
23:21 < Sedorox> yes
23:22 < Sedorox> RFID ID's actually
23:22 < sloof3> ....
23:22 < sloof3> Exploiting Lycoming College RFIDs for fun and profit.
23:22 < sloof3> Isn't there aloft like area in the field house
23:22 <@andrew> sloof3: yes
23:23 < sloof3> Is it accessible and over looks like floor
23:23 <@andrew> yes
23:24 < Sedorox> good spot for a 'command center'
23:24 <@andrew> Sedorox: aye (see -server)
23:24 < Sedorox> yes :p
23:46 < evand> What does Lycoming use for computer authentication?
23:46 < evand> LDAP, AD, Kerberos?
23:47 < Sedorox> they have netware
23:47 < Sedorox> do.. ldap
23:47 < Sedorox> so*
23:47 < evand> I doubt it's public facing, and would probably be a pain in the ass to talk to anyway
23:48 < Sedorox> probably
23:48 < evand> we can always just have them key in their Lycoming email address
23:48 < evand> for the login form
23:48 < Sedorox> we would have to do the same as we did at our end
23:48 < Sedorox> and also
23:48 < Sedorox> their ITS is a PITA
23:48 < sloof3> I don;t think we can do this reliably
23:48 < Sedorox> so I doubt they will be willing to let us do any interconnection
23:48 < evand> sloof3: do what reliably?
23:49 < sloof3> Since we don't know if we'll even have internet their
23:49 < sloof3> evand: authing people
23:49 < sloof3> I can foresee it being more trouble than it's worth...electronically that is
23:49 < evand> sloof3: it's simple, they show us their id which I would hope has their email address on it.
23:50 < sloof3> Sedorox: Does Lyco have that?
23:50 < Sedorox> umm
23:50 < Sedorox> I don't think so
23:50 < evand> I'd like to get them in the database for bring your own computer lan parties
23:50 < Sedorox> everyone's ID's are different
23:50 < sloof3> I think a pre-reg is the best way
23:50 < Sedorox> ours is one of the few with an email listed on it
23:50 < evand> then they show us some form of college ID
23:50 < Sedorox> and I remoind you.. it only started Spring 04
23:50 < Sedorox> er 05
23:50 < evand> and key whatever email address they want into the database
23:50 <@andrew> that would be best
23:51 < evand> holy fuck, this is delicious
23:51 < sloof3> Right, Pre-reg with whatever email address they want
23:51 < sloof3> First name Last name, email only
23:51 < evand> why pre?
23:51 < sloof3> Because we can
23:51 < Sedorox> well first off.. we would need to talk to their ACM.. and some other people to spread the word.. I think my girlfriend said their equal to student activities...
23:51 <@andrew> evand: idea of number of people to expect maybe?
23:51 < sloof3> SO we have an idea on what to expect
23:51 < Sedorox> I think we should do pre-req only on PCT...
23:51 < evand> then what do we tell people who show up at the door?
23:52 < evand> sorry, you can't come in?
23:52 < Sedorox> to get an idea.. because we are more likely to have more from here anyway
23:52 < evand> I don't want to turn anyone away
23:52 < evand> I want to make it as easy as possible for people to come
23:52 < Sedorox> no.. just to get an idea of how many to expect
23:52 < sloof3> It's not hard to pre-reg
23:52 < Sedorox> not to say you have to sign up or you can't come
23:52 < sloof3> I was thinking can't come
23:52 < evand> but people still wont do it
23:52 < sloof3> Otherwise people aren't liekly to do it
23:52 < Sedorox> so we can plan power.. network.. food.. etc..
23:52 < evand> and I don't want to turn those people away
23:52 <@andrew> evand: no, those who preregister would give us an idea on how many to expect (prereg * fudge factor)
23:53 < evand> it's a giant building, lets just plan for an awful lot
23:53 <@andrew> and use the incentive of prereg of faster check-in or something
23:53 < evand> that would work
23:53 < evand> we can generate tickets for prereg
23:53 < evand> that they print out
23:53 < evand> but I think that's getting complex
23:53 < sloof3> with a barcode that ANdrew gets to read
23:53 < evand> and I don't think it would be that beneficial
23:54 < Sedorox> lol
23:54 < evand> by hand
23:54 <@andrew> sloof3: sure
23:54 < Sedorox> I can still get a barcode scanner :p
23:54 < sloof3> evand: That's Evan that was the joke
23:54 <@andrew> Sedorox: that would be good
23:54 < sloof3> THanks*
23:54 < evand> great English there, chief.
23:54 < Sedorox> I dunno how we would generate the barcode tho
23:54 <@andrew> Sedorox: i can do that
23:54 <@andrew> i've done it before
23:54 <@andrew> php has a class that will do it
23:55 < sloof3> Anyway...minor issue aside
23:55 < Sedorox> and keep track of it.. to verify it?
23:55 <@andrew> local server
23:55 < Sedorox> (well.. I think I can get a barcode scanner still.. I'll check tomorrow)
23:55 < sloof3> We need a way to make sure everyone is patched up.
23:55 < Sedorox> sloof3: windows or games?
23:55 < evand> yeah, network cable is going to be the biggest issue
23:56 < sloof3> just about everything that could possibly go wrong we should planf or
23:56 < Sedorox> I know we have a box of old network cables
23:56 < Sedorox> different length
23:56 < Sedorox> nothing over 10'
23:56 < Sedorox> probably nothing over 5'
23:56 < evand> I bet we could borrow a projector
23:56 < evand> and keep stats printed on ti
23:56 < evand> it
23:56 < sloof3> If we tell people to have 10' minimum (the longer the better) then we can plan accordingly
23:56 < Sedorox> we do have newer ones.. but I have no idea if they would be willing to let us use it
23:56 < evand> is someone recording all of this?
23:57 < sloof3> I am logging...
23:57 < Sedorox> evand: tom said he can get projectors from media
23:57 <@andrew> evand: as am i
23:57 < Sedorox> I think I am too
23:57 <@andrew> hehe
23:57 < sloof3> What's the throw on those things
23:57 <@andrew> no idea
23:57 < sloof3> COuld we project from the balcony to the far wall..
23:57 < Sedorox> sloof3: doubtful
23:57 <@andrew> sloof3: i doubt it
23:57 < sloof3> drat
23:57 < Sedorox> would be too big
23:58 < Sedorox> altho they have rear-projection screens there
23:58 < Sedorox> so we can still hide it for the most part
23:58 < sloof3> indeed
23:58 < sloof3> I'd like to get a scaled map of the balcony and or go visit it so I can get an idea for some things
23:59 <@andrew> sloof3: i'd like to get one for the entire building, to lay out tables and such
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00:00 < evand> what do we do for announcements?
00:00 <@andrew> evand: PA system?
00:00 < sloof3> evand: Ticker tape parade?
00:00 < Sedorox> lol
00:00 <@andrew> one site recommended a bull horn
00:00 < sloof3> You mean for the event
00:00 < sloof3> I meant to get the word out
00:00 < Sedorox> I'm sure we can get a pa system
00:00 < evand> we could just get one of the UT players to speak out the announcements
00:00 < sloof3> If there isn't already one
00:00 <@andrew> hahaha
00:00 <@andrew> rofl
00:00 < sloof3> evand: ...
00:01 < Sedorox> lol
00:01  * sloof3 &
00:01 <@andrew> hrm
00:01 < Sedorox> I don't think I wanna know
00:02 < evand> we should get on the phone with these potential sponsors asap
00:03 <@andrew> evand: i'd wait until we confirm the field house, most of the sponsors on the list want 4 weeks notice (first week of march)
00:03 < evand> ok
00:04 <@andrew> evand: i'm going to talk to TomGarrett tomorrow and make sure we put in the request for the FH tomorrow
00:04 < evand> can somoene dump the recent conversation in here into the wiki?  I'd do it but I really need to get back to work
00:04 <@andrew> evand: sure
00:05 < evand> thanks